Talk:2019/Grants/COVID-19 translation

Willingness to collaborate
I proposed this project in a certain way centered where I am at the School of Data Science at the University of Virginia. However, I am willing to join anyone else who wants to develop or share COVID-19 content. I am especially interested to make this a multi-team effort. Teams which especially appeal to me are Wikimedia Medicine, the Translation Task Force, SWASTHA, WikiProject Humanitarian Wikidata, Wikimedia New York City, and Wikimedia Sweden, because all of these organizations do health translation in Wikipedia.

If other organizations would join, I am ready to defer to any common plan and participate according to that.

Having this money come to the University of Virginia is not urgent. If anyone else can manage money to do a COVID-19 project then I can support that. I wish that the sponsorship could encourage collaboration, and will support whatever plan seems best to make that happen.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  00:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Criticisms
I have received some private criticism of this proposal. I will respond to that here. If anyone wants to discuss further, then speak up!  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  00:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Will you pay translators to produce content to publish in Wikipedia? Paid editing is taboo in Wikipedia.
This project is too complicated to plan far in advance. If paying translators makes sense then I support it.

In some cases, especially for underserved languages in the developing world, there is not a pool of volunteer Wikipedia labor. There is no way to use money to quickly recruit volunteers to do translation, or if there is, the cost of recruiting a volunteer is higher than the cost of paying someone outright for translation. Whatever process this project uses will be transparent in the usual Wikipedia way.

One possible process is this:


 * 1) start with English language content
 * 2) use translation consultant to produce first draft
 * 3) seek review of that draft from existing Wikipedia community, who cannot do the translation but do find it easier to review an existing draft
 * 4) if recommended, finally seek review from native speaker who also is a health care professional and who can review technical terms and phrases

 Blue Rasberry  (talk)  00:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Why not use medical professionals for everything?
Ideally all of Wikipedia should be written by experts. Wikipedia does not have the goal to encourage everyone to edit, but instead, letting everyone edit is just a consequence of not having resources to get professional experts to produce perfect content in every language. It would be ideal to have experts produce first drafts of everything then let volunteers critique or revise those first expert drafts.

Unfortunately history has demonstrated that we cannot recruit volunteer experts to write all of Wikipedia. Also it is too expensive to pay them.

This is a fairly inexpensive project by United States standards, and this budget is insufficient to pay health care experts to produce all the desired content. Instead, this project plans a mix of some strategic expert review, and some Wikipedia volunteer review, and some staff administration to document what we did to be ready for future disaster response on Wikipedia. This is an attempt to have the response that is cheapest and best.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  00:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Seeking community review
Anyone with any comments, criticism, or support can post here. Anyone is also welcome to say "I do not feel this model for translation will be effective", and further either give any or no explanation. Thanks.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  00:36, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Happy to be involved in drafting the initial content. Doc James (talk) 20:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)