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= Tracking relations between scientific works, such as disputes =
 
= Tracking relations between scientific works, such as disputes =
 
* Prof. Yang tells Lane and me that students have trouble interpreting a dynamic immunology literature which includes published papers whose findings are wrong or irrelevant.
 
* We are imagining a wiki platform that made the state of the science more clear.
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* Here's a feature it could have.
   
 
Examples:
 
Examples:
 
* [http://acawiki.org/Does_High_Public_Debt_Consistently_Stifle_Economic_Growth%3F_A_Critique_of_Reinhart_and_Rogoff On how much government debt stifles economic growth]
 
* [http://acawiki.org/Does_High_Public_Debt_Consistently_Stifle_Economic_Growth%3F_A_Critique_of_Reinhart_and_Rogoff On how much government debt stifles economic growth]
 
* [http://acawiki.org/A_diffusible_lymphokine_produced_by_CD8%2B_T_lymphocytes Claim about immune response to HIV]
 
* [http://acawiki.org/A_diffusible_lymphokine_produced_by_CD8%2B_T_lymphocytes Claim about immune response to HIV]
* [http://acawiki.org/Report_on_disputed_scientific_claims_within_AcaWiki Report on disputes between papers on this site]
 
 
 
* Prof. Yang says: students have trouble interpreting a dynamic literature which includes published papers whose findings are wrong or irrelevant.
 
* We are imagining a wiki platform that made the state of the science more clear.
 
   
* acawiki has academic summaries. it's not ours, it's a place for this particular experiment.
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* AcaWiki has 1100 academic summaries.
* See first two examples (which use Semantic MediaWiki)
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* See first two examples
* Substantive comment is formalized: A disputes B
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* Substantive comment is formalized: A disputes B (using Semantic MediaWiki)
 
* Similarly could incorporate other '''relations between scientific works''': A cites B ; A is an important predecessor to B ; A and B use the same data set or the same clinical trial information
 
* Similarly could incorporate other '''relations between scientific works''': A cites B ; A is an important predecessor to B ; A and B use the same data set or the same clinical trial information
 
* note that the platform doesn't generally resolve claims or disputes ; it's finding a shallower kind of Truth
 
* note that the platform doesn't generally resolve claims or disputes ; it's finding a shallower kind of Truth
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* Trees of relationships can then be made visible ; could give a '''picture of a literature'''
 
* Trees of relationships can then be made visible ; could give a '''picture of a literature'''
 
* Useful for:
 
* Useful for:
# those new to this research (e.g. students) or
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# students of this research or
# researchers not at a "central" place where people hear the latest stuff, e.g. in the global south who aren't as well connected to the very latest news
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# researchers not at a "central" place that is well-connected to the latest news (global South?)
# somebody coming in from some other expertise who doesn't actually understand it all but has a technology or a skill that helps to address the specific question of fact. That happens all the time but it happens less if each subfield has knowledge barriers around it. We can help it happen more.
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# somebody coming in from some other expertise who doesn't actually understand it all but has a technology or a skill that helps to address the specific question of fact. That happens all the time but it happens less if each subfield has knowledge barriers around it.
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===> If the site were good it could save time for scientists and bring in more scientists
   
 
* [http://acawiki.org/Report_on_disputed_scientific_claims_within_AcaWiki Report on disputes between papers on this site]
* on such a wiki, who is qualified to make commentary & identify disputes?
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* on such a wiki, who is qualified to make commentary & identify disputes? (don't have consensus)
 
* would like to work with more people and get more ideas of what a platform like that should have in it
   
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Sources:
 
* developed with Lane Rasberry (WM NYC), Otto Yang (UCLA medicine), others
 
* developed with Lane Rasberry (WM NYC), Otto Yang (UCLA medicine), others
* drawing from Yaron Koren's discoursedb.org ; Retraction Watch blog; other sites
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* drawing from Yaron Koren's discoursedb.org ; Retraction Watch blog; other sites
 
* would like to work with more people and get more ideas of what a platform like that should have in it
 

Revision as of 13:43, 1 June 2014

Tracking relations between scientific works, such as disputes

  • Prof. Yang tells Lane and me that students have trouble interpreting a dynamic immunology literature which includes published papers whose findings are wrong or irrelevant.
  • We are imagining a wiki platform that made the state of the science more clear.
  • Here's a feature it could have.

Examples:

  • AcaWiki has 1100 academic summaries.
  • See first two examples
  • Substantive comment is formalized: A disputes B (using Semantic MediaWiki)
  • Similarly could incorporate other relations between scientific works: A cites B ; A is an important predecessor to B ; A and B use the same data set or the same clinical trial information
  • note that the platform doesn't generally resolve claims or disputes ; it's finding a shallower kind of Truth
  • Could scale this up with big lists of relevant papers and works from many places including PubMed, SSRN, and Wikidata
The list is not an innovation but the relations between the works can be useful if they are formalized a bit
  • Trees of relationships can then be made visible ; could give a picture of a literature
  • Useful for:
  1. students of this research or
  2. researchers not at a "central" place that is well-connected to the latest news (global South?)
  3. somebody coming in from some other expertise who doesn't actually understand it all but has a technology or a skill that helps to address the specific question of fact. That happens all the time but it happens less if each subfield has knowledge barriers around it.

===> If the site were good it could save time for scientists and bring in more scientists

  • Report on disputes between papers on this site
  • on such a wiki, who is qualified to make commentary & identify disputes? (don't have consensus)
  • would like to work with more people and get more ideas of what a platform like that should have in it

Sources:

  • developed with Lane Rasberry (WM NYC), Otto Yang (UCLA medicine), others
  • drawing from Yaron Koren's discoursedb.org ; Retraction Watch blog; other sites