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A New Approach to Promotionalism
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'''New Approach to Promotionalism'''
 
#. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
 
 
##. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
1. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
 
 
##, This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
2. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
 
 
## We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove what's already included
3, This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
 
 
## Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
4. We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove what's already included
 
 
## Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy: also promotionalism, but less conspicuous
 
 
## Individual professional also advertiise, but are also less conspicuous
5. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
 
 
# No clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
5.1 Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy: also promotionalism, but less conspicuous
 
 
## Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
5.2 Individual professional also engage in advertising, but are also less conspicuous
 
 
#<s>NOT</s>DIRECTORY==
 
 
# for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
6. There is no clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
 
 
## We should ourselves prepare these pages just as for Geographical features, , etc..
6.1 Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
 
 
## should contain basic directory information
 
 
## '''best be prepared and updated through Wikidata'''
7. <s>NOT</s>DIRECTORY==
 
 
# Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
7.1 for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
 
 
## Possible mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , Needs to be adapted , perhaps per editor / field
7.2 We should therefore ourselves prepare these pages on a routine basis, just as for Geographical features, professional athletes, art works in museums, etc..
 
 
## new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
7.3 hey should contain basic directory information
 
7.4 '''They should best be prepared and updates through Wikidata'''
 
 
8. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
 
8.1 We have a mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , it would need to be adapted , perhaps per editor
 
8.2 new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
 

Revision as of 18:33, 20 October 2018

for full version see [[User talk:DGG/prev]

New Approach to Promotionalism

  1. . All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
    1. . This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
    2. , This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
    3. We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove what's already included
    4. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
    5. Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy: also promotionalism, but less conspicuous
    6. Individual professional also advertiise, but are also less conspicuous
  2. No clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
    1. Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
  3. NOTDIRECTORY==
  4. for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
    1. We should ourselves prepare these pages just as for Geographical features, , etc..
    2. should contain basic directory information
    3. best be prepared and updated through Wikidata
  5. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
    1. Possible mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , Needs to be adapted , perhaps per editor / field
    2. new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --