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'''New Approach to Promotionalism'''
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for full version see [[User talk:DGG/prev]
  
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# All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
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## This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. ''This is not unreasonable.''
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A New Approach to Promotionalism
  
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# This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing
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## subjects, company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
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1. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
 
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## Increasingly difficult to control, or remove what's already included
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2. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
  
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## Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem: straight advertising: ''priority''
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3, This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
 
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## Non-commercial organizations: government, universities, charities: advocacy & promotionalism, but less conspicuous
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4. We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove what's already included
  
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## Individual professional also advertise, but less conspicuous
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# No clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
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5. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
  
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## Good faith non-promotional editors use promotional writing
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5.1 Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy: also promotionalism, but less conspicuous
  
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# ''WP contains elements of a directory''
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5.2 Individual professional also engage in advertising, but are also less conspicuous
 
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# for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified
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## either GNG or listed company or other fixed criterion
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6. There is no clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
  
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# We should ourselves prepare these, as for Geographical features, etc.
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6.1 Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
  
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## contains basic directory information
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## prepared and updated through '''Wikidata'''
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7. <s>NOT</s>DIRECTORY==
  
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# Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
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7.1 for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
  
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## Possible mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , Needs to be adapted , perhaps per editor / field
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7.2 We should therefore ourselves prepare these pages on a routine basis, just as for Geographical features, professional athletes, art works in museums, etc..
  
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## new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
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7.3 hey should contain basic directory information
  
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7.4 '''They should best be prepared and updates through Wikidata'''
  
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8. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
  
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8.1 We have a mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , it would need to be adapted , perhaps per editor
  
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8.2 new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
  

Latest revision as of 18:47, 20 October 2018

New Approach to Promotionalism

  1. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
    1. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
  2. This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing
    1. subjects, company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
    2. Increasingly difficult to control, or remove what's already included
    3. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem: straight advertising: priority
    4. Non-commercial organizations: government, universities, charities: advocacy & promotionalism, but less conspicuous
    5. Individual professional also advertise, but less conspicuous
  3. No clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
    1. Good faith non-promotional editors use promotional writing
  4. WP contains elements of a directory
  5. for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified
    1. either GNG or listed company or other fixed criterion
  6. We should ourselves prepare these, as for Geographical features, etc.
    1. contains basic directory information
    2. prepared and updated through Wikidata
  7. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
    1. Possible mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , Needs to be adapted , perhaps per editor / field
    2. new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
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