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==A New Approach to Promotionalism==
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A New Approach to Promotionalism
   
 
1. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
 
2. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
 
3, This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
 
4. We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove what's already included
   
 
5. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
===the problem===
 
 
5.1 Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy: also promotionalism, but less conspicuous
It is increasingly perceived by most businessmen and professionals that a WP page is an essential part of their PR.
 
 
5.2 Individual professional also engage in advertising, but are also less conspicuous
This is due both the role it is given in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
 
   
 
6. There is no clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects or executives directly, company PR agents, outside PR firms and free-lance paid editors.
 
 
6.1 Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove the immense amount already included
 
   
 
7. <s>NOT</s>DIRECTORY==
===Priorities===
 
 
7.1 for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
#Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
 
 
7.2 We should therefore ourselves prepare these pages on a routine basis, just as for Geographical features, professional athletes, art works in museums, etc..
#Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy, which is also promotionalism , but less conspicuous
 
 
7.3 hey should contain basic directory information
#Individual professional also engage in advertising, but are also less conspicuous
 
 
7.4 '''They should best be prepared and updates through Wikidata'''
   
 
8. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
===Basic difficulties===
 
 
8.1 We have a mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , it would need to be adapted , perhaps per editor
#There is no clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
 
 
8.2 new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
#Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
 
 
==<s>NOT</s>DIRECTORY==
 
#For any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
 
#We should therefore ourselves prepare these pages on a routine basis, just as for Geographical features, professional athletes, art works in museums, etc..
 
#They should contain basic directory information
 
#They could be prepared and updates through Wikidata
 
 
===Further editing: PC1===
 
#Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
 
#We have a mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) ,
 
##new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
 
##the details can be modified
 
#It could be applied to entire categories of subjects
 
##first priority is business enterprises
 

Revision as of 18:23, 20 October 2018

for full version see [[User talk:DGG/prev]

A New Approach to Promotionalism

1. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR. 2. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable. 3, This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors. 4. We are increasingly unable to control it, let alone remove what's already included

5. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising 5.1 Non-commercial organizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy: also promotionalism, but less conspicuous 5.2 Individual professional also engage in advertising, but are also less conspicuous

6. There is no clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising 6.1 Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP

7. NOTDIRECTORY== 7.1 for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion 7.2 We should therefore ourselves prepare these pages on a routine basis, just as for Geographical features, professional athletes, art works in museums, etc.. 7.3 hey should contain basic directory information 7.4 They should best be prepared and updates through Wikidata

8. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled 8.1 We have a mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , it would need to be adapted , perhaps per editor 8.2 new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --