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'''New Approach to Promotionalism'''
 
 
# All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
==A New Approach to Promotionalism==
 
 
## This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. ''This is not unreasonable.''
 
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# This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing
 
 
## subjects, company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
===the problem===
 
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## Increasingly difficult to control, or remove what's already included
It is increasingly perceived by most businessmen and professionals that a WP page is an essential part of their PR.
 
 
## Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem: straight advertising: ''priority''
This is due both the role it is given in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
 
 
## Non-commercial organizations: government, universities, charities: advocacy & promotionalism, but less conspicuous
 
 
## Individual professional also advertise, but less conspicuous
This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing, from subjects or executives directly, company PR agents, outside PR firms and free-lance paid editors.
 
 
# No clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
We are increasingly unable to controlit, let alone removethe immense amount already included
 
 
## Good faith non-promotional editors use promotional writing
 
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# ''WP contains elements of a directory''
===Priorities===
 
 
# for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified
#Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem, as their pages resemble straight advertising
 
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## either GNG or listed company or other fixed criterion
#Non-commmercialorganizations: government agencies, universities, charities engage in advocacy, which is also promotionalism , but less conspicuous
 
 
# We should ourselves prepare these, as for Geographical features, etc.
#Individual professional also engage in advertising, but are also less conspicuous
 
 
## contains basic directory information
 
 
## prepared and updated through '''Wikidata'''
===Basic difficulties===
 
 
# Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
#There is no clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
 
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## Possible mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , Needs to be adapted , perhaps per editor / field
#Good faith non promotional editors fall into promotional writing ,sincethey see so much of it on WP
 
 
## new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --
 
===<s>NOT</s>DIRECTORY==
 
#For any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified -- either by the GNG or as a listed company or other fixed criterion
 
#We should therefore ourselves prepare these pages on a routine basis, just as for Geographical features, professional athletes, art works in museums, etc..
 
#They should contain basic directory information
 
#They could be prepared and updates through Wikidata
 
 
===Further editing: PC1===
 
#Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
 
#We have a mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) ,
 
##new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unrelgistered public until approved. --
 
##the details can be modified
 
#It could be applied to entire categories of subjects
 
##first priority is business enterprises
 

Latest revision as of 18:47, 20 October 2018

New Approach to Promotionalism

  1. All businessmen and professionals want a WP page is essential to their PR.
    1. This is due to the role it has in Google and the general perception that WP is important. This is not unreasonable.
  2. This increasingly gives rise to bad paid promotional editing
    1. subjects, company PR agents, outside PR firms & free-lance paid editors.
    2. Increasingly difficult to control, or remove what's already included
    3. Commercial organizations are the most conspicuous problem: straight advertising: priority
    4. Non-commercial organizations: government, universities, charities: advocacy & promotionalism, but less conspicuous
    5. Individual professional also advertise, but less conspicuous
  3. No clear boundary between full presentation of relevant data and subtle POV advertising
    1. Good faith non-promotional editors use promotional writing
  4. WP contains elements of a directory
  5. for any reasonably important business or organization a page can be justified
    1. either GNG or listed company or other fixed criterion
  6. We should ourselves prepare these, as for Geographical features, etc.
    1. contains basic directory information
    2. prepared and updated through Wikidata
  7. Further promotional editing needs to be controlled
    1. Possible mechanism: Pending changes (PC1) , Needs to be adapted , perhaps per editor / field
    2. new editors have their changes visible for editing, but not visible to the unregistered public until approved. --